>> megyn: so my husband's book ghost of manhattan is available as an audio book and guess who reads it? i don't really know. thanks for watching. i'm megyn kelly. here is shepherd. >> shepard: ththe new begins aw on studio b. the deadly flu outbreak that killed at least 20 kids across the country is widespread in every state but three but we may be at a turning point at least in some area. we will get you the details on that. cops say they found this boy who went missing two decades ago living near his grandparents in a different state and investigator is say they understand why they abducted him. michael bloomberg is now fighting to reduce the abuse of prescription pain killers. could that be nearly as important as a 16-ounce soda? the deadly flu outbreak has

grown to epidemic status the official word from the center for disease control in atlanta. responsible for 7.3% of deaths in the u.s. last week. the cdc reports widespread flu activity in nearly every state except california, mississippi and hawaii. why mississippi would be there in the middle of things and not have a wid spread. probably has more to do with reporting than reality. it was widespread in just 41 states in the previous week. in eastern oklahoma one school district canceled classes because nearly one quarter of the 650 students report they came down with the flu bug. and we reported about shortages of flu vaccine in some areas in the united states including the city of summerville massachusetts but the cdc director says calm down with that. the overall picture is good and folks have plenty of opportunities to get the shot. >> if you haven't been vaccinated and want to be,

better late than never but call the preprovider ahead of time. most of of the more than 130 million doses produced by vaccine manufacturers this year have already been given. >> shepard: and it is still too early to tell how bad flu season may yet turn out. it already killed at least 20 kids across the country as i mentioned. jonathan, what are you hearing from folks in atlanta? >> 47 states are reporting widespread flu activity. there may be a is silver lining in all of this. the cdc says there are at least early indications flu activity may be diminishing in some parts of the country including the south. one cdc epidemiologist puts it in per specttive. >> a slight down tick in the proportion of the lab tests

positive for i influenza activy in the last week. >> the statistics come from close to the holidays when many clinics are closed and people put off seeing the doctor except in extreme emergencies. we may need to wait another another couple weeks before we can at the whether the current statistics represent a trend. >> shepard: and people shouldn't think about there is not enough vaccine as an excuse. there is plenty of vaccine. >> there are reports of spotty shortages but call ahead and if your medical provider doesn't have vaccine continue to shop around and you will find a place that has vaccine. that is what i found personally when i got my flu shot one week ago. we checked in with a cds clinic nurse who says she has seen increased demand for the shots over the last couple of weeks. >> we are seeing across the

nation in all of our minute clinics increased volume. people seeking out the flu vaccine and those sick coming in to be seen as well. we are are doing our best to meet the demands of the population in the state. >> this year's vaccine is 62 about percent effective. that is in keeping with previous evacuation scenes and while the numbers may not sound very high, public health officials say it is still the best protection against getting the flu. >> shepard: jonathan serrie in atlanta. thanks. the feds say they are ordering a comprehensive review you whatever that means of boeing's new line of 787 dreamliners in the wake of technical problems. on tuesday, a japan airlines dreamliner spilled about 40-gallons of crew moments before it was set it to take off. they call it a maintenance issue. that was the day after a fire broke out in the belly of a different airliner at logan filling that cab bin with smoke. dan springer is in the pacific

northwest home of boeing. a review like this isn't so rare, is it? >> actually it is, shep. an aviation analyst we spoke with here in seattle says it is very unusual and hasn't happened since 1979. as for passenger safety we will have to see what the final report says. meantime the planes will continue to fly. the fire monday in boston triggered the action. a lithium battery which powers the plane when the engines are off overheated. there was a lot of smoke and eventually fire and this follows three electrical problems in december that either grounded planes or diverted flights. the comprehensive review will focus in on the dreamliner entire electrical system. >> this review will cover the critical systems of the aircraft including design, manufacturing and assembly. >> transportation secretary lahood also said many times that he would get on one of these planes and fly it

tomorrow. >> shepard: a nightmare for boeing, dan. >> yeah, the 787 is boeing's first all new plane in 20 years. the company has invested billions of dollars and so far they have delivered 49 of these dreamliners. customer confidence is the key to eventually turning a profit which many people say is years away anyway and right now that confidence has been shaken a bit. although we did see one land in san jose with a lot of fanfare. the inaugural flight from tokyo to san jose. the chairman said he has not spoken to the faa today but he believes the plane is safe. boeing has 800 dreamliners on backorder and we have not heard of any buyers back out. >> shepard: a huge break to report in the case of a boy who went missing nearly two decades ago when was five days old. was living in a different state and had new name. here is the picture of him from when was a child and his name

was richard landers, jr. his grandparents snapped the boy and left in 1994 in the middle of a heated custody battle. his stepdad says mom is jumping up and down for joy. jonathan hunt is with us. how did after all this time how did investigators track him down? >> it turned out to be simple in the end. richard landa's stepfather handed to the police the social security card and they ran a check and found a match in minnesota. the birth dates also matched and they found their man. back in 2008, though, the case had been dropped because it had gone cold. the grandparents were the only real suspects all along. they were charged for custody interferences but they disappeared along with the boy. one of the original investigating cops says he believes that the grandparents only ever did what they

believed was best for their grandson. list. >> i knew they were not the kind of people that were going to see that he got hurt at all so. but it was wrong. it it is just too bad that that many years have gone by. but i am really happy that he was found and everything is okay. >> the mother and stepfather at the time of the abduction were january employed and living in a car. we do not have any indication right now as to whether the grand parents will still face charges. >> and there may be tough times for the mother. >> she has gone 18 years not knowing essentially whether her son was dead or alive but the toughest times may yet be ahead. this is a boy who was brought up we don't know whether he knew whether he had been told by his grandparents whether his mother was dead or alive. and one of the cops in indiana said because of the emotional difficulties here it may be some time before there is any

reunion. lesson. >> as far as i know there is no plans in the work for any kind of reunion at this point but it is still early because this bomb shell was just dropped on this young man. probably take time to digest and work things. >> richard is married and expecting h his first child. >> jonathan hunt, thank you. one of the nation's most respected diplomats just got back from nort north korea. which member member of his entourage did they greet as a rock star and what is he doing for google and what is google doing for them. a man who reportedly said he was going to join the taliban and has been if that is a friend who needs an enemy kind and a half. today the white house to talk about our nation's longest war. specifically when and how we will get out of there finally.

that is the question from many afghans. but the president of afghanistan wants to talk about the circumstances. so they will and we will report in just a moment. this s "studio b." and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news.

>> shepard: the former governor of new mexico bill richardson is back in the united states after he made a trip to north korea with the google chairman eric schmidt. the state department criticized the visit as unhelpful and basically told they don't go but they went anyway. they pushed nort north north kp missile launches and nuclear tests and called on the regime to allow more cell phones and internet access. he also said he asked for fair and humane treatment for an american citizen detained in north korea. he joins us now. also the former energy secretary and former u.s. ambassador to the united nations. good afternoon, is, sir. >> hello, shep, nice to be with

you. >> shepard: what did you accomplish? >> three things. as you mixed, one, i think very few talk to the north koreans. we push for a moratorium on missile launches and nuclear tests and pushed hard on the american detainee that he get fair treatment. we were assured he would get counselor are access and that judicial proceedings on him would start soon,ful hopefully to send him home. last thely which i think was the most valuable was getting on north korean widespread television advocating for the internet. this is something that does not exist much in north korea that should be pushed. more mobile technology, cell phones but especially the internet. if you know what happened in the arab spring it was twitter and facebook and social media that moved that country to move those countries in the arab spring towards more democracy

and more liberation. so i think it was a successful trip. >> shepard: you didn't talk to kim the younger, though, how far up did you get? >> we got far up in the foreign ministry and talked to the chief nuclear negotiator that deals with the six party countries in asia and the united states but nobody talks to them. they are isolated. i think what was valuable was that we got to send some very tough messages and the fact that eric schmidt of google was there. google is huge in north korea. people want the internet and that freedom. and the fact they saw him and was able to talk about internet expansion in north korea when the country is very closed was a good message. >> shepard: did you receive compensation or consulting fees from google or any one associated with google for this

trip? >> not at all. we each paid for our own trip. i invited eric schmidt from going toll go. i have again abouting to north korea for quite awhile. had success getting american soldiers, remains of our military back and prisoners back. >> shepard: the state department called it unhelpful and asked you not to do it. why did you? >> i'm a private citizen. i don't work for the state department. their position s understandable because the relationship with north korea s is very bad. >> shepard: is there enough food and power as far as you can tell at least for -- i mean help us understand what the place is like? >> well, it is like you said in -- step into a time warp into the '50s. there is no heat there if you saw us in the videos going to schools, to software places, to computer schools.

>> shepard: no heat anywhere? >> is no heat anywhere. >> that is why when kim jong il was looking at things he was wearing coats all the time. >> the country is in bad shape. we are trying to spend a message don't is spend your money on missiles on the military. spend it on the economy and a free market and move forward to give your people more of an opportunity and i think that message was h heard because nobody talks to these guys and it doesn't make sense to isolate countries that have like north korea four to five nuclear weapons, a million and a half men in arms, missiles. i think it is better to bring them in and talk to them and try to negotiate with them. again, they are tough, unpredictable. they don't always keep their word. but to isolate them i don't think works. >> shepard: interesting, thank you. a judge in chicago has now given investigators permission

to dig up the body of a guy who won the lottery and died the next day of cyanide poisoning. now, we are learning more about his last meal and perhaps more importantly who decided not to taste any of his food. that would be important information to have, wouldn't it? and a somali pirates have stolen hundreds of ships worth millions of dollars over the past few years around earned a pretty penny in ransom, too. now, probably one of the most powerful pirates in all of the world has announced he is retiring. who knew pirates retired. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you have questions about incorporating a business you'd like to start. or questions about protecting your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like to find the right attorney to help guide you along, answer any questions and offer advice. with an "a" rating from the better business bureau legalzoom helps you get

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>> shepard: pirating is not what is used to be apparently. holding cargo ships hostage on

the high seas not cutting it any more. a somali pirate king pen called big mouth reportedly held a news conference to announce he is retiring from piratery. according to the reporting of wired magazine, sir big mouth and h his gang have pulled off two of the most brazen hijackings. he captured a saudi owned supertanker loaded with $100 million worth of oil. not bad. he scored 3 million bucks in ransom. later the same year the crew reportedly captured a ukrainian ship packed with at least 30 tanks. again, he got $3 million. he did not give a reason for hanging up the old eye patch. according to the maritime board somali marry tam maritime attay

down. and a pirate retires. a potential bomb shell in the case of a lotto winner who dropped dead after somehow eating cyanide. there is word his wife cooked up his last meal but neither that wife nor his daughter ate a single bite of that meal. we are talking about this guy from chicago. he looked happy there. that is before he was dead. the ticket he was holding worth million bucks before taxes. one day after he claimed the prize cops say somebody reported him. police sources say the victim good violently ill after eating dinnary meal which the rest of the family did it not shear. yesterday here on "studio b" i talked to the chicago tribune reporter who has spoken with the wife. >> when she was interviewed by the police for four plus hours she talked about preparing his last meal which was lamb curry.

>> shepard: she didn't mention any cyanide in the meal, though? >> no cyanide. what she has been saying to everybody is she couldn't imagine why any one would want to poison her husband. >> shepard: wouldn't the have anything to do with all that money probably. police have not said she s a suspect. they never say anybody is a suspect any more, not since o.j. she says she had nothing to do with his murder and right now we have no reason to doubt her. a judge gave police permission to dig up the victim's body. >> we talked to the medical examiner and there is no exact time lines but they hope to have the autopsy done by next week. when the judge gave them the go-ahead to dig up the body nobody in the family objected at all. the wife said she is eager to learn how her husband died. the first thing the autopsy will focus on is what s inside

his stomach, his last meal, if you will to see if that is how the cyanide got into his system. listen. >> we are all assuming that it was something that was prepared at dinner and put into his meal and then he died several hours later. it is possible that that isn't what happened. it is possible he had another meal or somebody else had access to him and gave him the cyanide. that is evidence that may or may not go forward in the autopsy. >> cyanide can be swallowed, inhaled and injected. >> shepard: lotto money still thought of as most likely the motive or not? >> the police certainly haven't ruled out that he was killed because of the lottery money but he took the lump sum payout which was $425,000 after taxes. his brother claims the wife tried to cash the check several times in the days after his death but was unable to do that and the brother also claims that he and his wife are not

legally married and his brother in law is also suspicious. listen to him. >> we are not finding -- the only thing i can tell is nobody access to the house and nobody was there and no relative was there. they have a two story house and a bedroom upstairs and nobody was there. >> police, of course, will also take a look at khan's father in law who owed $120,000 in backs taxes. >> shepard: just so i'm clear the wife made the meal, didn't eat the meal, he ate the meal and he died. >> right. and the daughter ate a little bit. did not eat the whole meal either. >> shepard: i could do some guessing but i won't. the case against james holmes will go to trial. that is new today. and today families of the victims gave james holmes a piece of their minds.

admitted delay in the plea hearing. have you heard about this? wait until you you hear about this vice president joe biden met with officials from the video game industry the day after the nra accused the white house of having a political agenda here. basically attacking the second amendment at not trying to take care of kids, that s what the nrale says. we will get to that at the mad bottom of the hour here on fox news channel, america's choicer for news. stay fit on the inside with sunsweet's amazing juices.

>> shepard: i'm shepherd smith. this is "studio b." the bottom of the hour. time for top of the news. families crying in court and some walking out in disgust. even an emotional outburst shouting at shooting suspect james holmes "rot in hell." another very though the scheduled arraignment didn't even happen. the judge postponed the plea hearing until march after the defense team asked for more time. a judge ruled there is, indeed, enough evidence to try holmes in the shooting rampage which left 12 people dead and 70 wounded back in july. the delay didn't sit well with the victims' family. some shook their head and cried and another shouted down suspect himself. alisa acuna live from the courthouse in colorado. what an awful experience for

these poor people, alisa. >> and the cousin of one of the victims said she is surprised there hasn't been more outbursts. the father of rebecca wingo apologized to the judge after yelling rot in hell holmes at the end of court. the judge said i'm terribly sorry for your loss and i can only begin to imagine the emotions this must be raising. can i count on you refraining from further outbursts and he agreed. some victims talked to the media after recess. >> a lot of waiting. and justice will be served. >> a lot of family members in there that are very frustrated. >> under the colorado victims' bill of rights the prosecution may ask the victims what their preference s to delay or not. the d.a. office said when they had that of course with victims and family members last night 84 did not want a delay. 6 didn't have a position 4

didn't object to it. now, we wait until march for a possible plea. >> shepard: and we heard from the district attorney as well, right? what is he saying? >> the attorneys can't say a whole lot because of the gag order but after the emotional end to the day in court the new d.a. came out and said this. >> i want you to understand and i want to emphasize despite those findings by this court the charges in the case that the office has brought remain mere accusations and the defendant is entitled to the presumption of innocence until he is proven otherwise. >> the judge addressed holmes and asked if he january and it that under the law he had a right to a speedy trial and this delay would delay all of that. he didn't even acknowledge the judge. but at that point the defense attorney stood up and said he understood that.

>> shepard: what is up with the defense delay? let's bring in attorney craig silverman. he is live from denver. he works there. craig, if they need more time they can request it? >> they sure can but i don't blame the victims family member from being frustrated. delay is the ally of a defendant especially in a death penalty case. >> delay is the ally of the defendant. what they really want to do is slow walk this thing. if their only goal is to keep him from dying, delay works. >> absolutely. a two month extension, that is another two months that might have been added to their client's life. it is his strategy. i would say one delayed, two sal and then three repeat the strategy and you can't blame them. there is more to it than that and let's acknowledge there was bizarre behavior here and the prosecution may have quite a challenge proving beyond a

reasonable doubt that holmes was sane. >> shepard: we'll get back to you. a hero teacher may very well have stopped a massacre in yesterday's school shooting that happened in california a couple of hours north and east of l.a. a high school student, 16-year-old came right in there with a shotgun and opened fire. took aim. targeted two students who they now say had been bullying him. it was a bullying thing for him. he shot one of them and jet cali wounded the teen but then when shot at the next one he missed according to police who say he may now have been looking to kill even more people. they say that because they found several rounds of ammunition in his pocket. a science teacher was brave in the middle of all of this and went face to face with the shooter and sort of talked the shooter off a ledge for lack of a better phrase and the other students were able to run to safety. the teacher talked the suspect

into eventually handing over the gun. the victim is expected to have surgery later on today. we will keep you updated. >> straight to washington where vice president biden met with the video industry an in part f his ongoing discussions aimed at reducing gun violence. the companies activision and electronic artsmakers of medal of honor and the vendor gamestop which is a really big one. the white house got pushback from the national rifle association after its representatives mead wit met we vice president yesterday. the nra said vice president baden made it explicitly clear that president obama already made up his mind on those issues. carl cameron is live in washington, d.c. now, talking about video games.

>> entertainment last night and video games today. not a sign of great concern by the entertainment industry or movies and broadcasters or the video gaming industry about whether or not they will face copsences as a result of the summit by joe biden trying to cur, gun violence. s a big contrast to the folks on the second amendment gun side given the president's desire to ban is semi automatic rifles and improve background checks. the likelihood of an all out ban might be losing momentum. it has become fairly obvious that the legislative bill in the senate is going to have a hard time getting through the republicanly controlled house. that is not something that is likely to be done with an executive order by the president. it may not even happen which has both sides aggressively digging in for what could be a long campaign style battle. >> shepard: i heard suggestions

from the gun own areship groups. go through what they are doing. >> the nra just to give you an idea of the disparity here. the white house and gun control lobby are aggressively trying to build up a grass roots organization to compete with the gun rights side. last year the national rifle association alone just the one group put $20 million into the 2012 campaign. by contrast, if you take collectively all of the one control groups and anti-gun groups they gave a total of $4,000. the disparity s huge and as a consequence the white house some of the groups are trying to build their own grass roots organization. talk to churches and police and teachers and try to build it up. the nra and other related groups have a much more aggressive plan. a gun appreciation day on january 19. people encouraged all over thetry to say hands off my guns

and wave the american flag and protect the second amendment. thdisparity in level in grass roots, the white house is trying to catch up but doing it as they go s almost headaching it harder, shep. >> shepard: almost all u.s. troops are scheduled to leave afghanistan sometime this year. today the president is at the white house to discuss the exit strategy. how is that going to work? >> "fox news sunday" anchor chris wallace will be in with us next on "studio b." i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses,

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plans because congress hasn't passed the appropriations bill for 2013. pentagon spending is frozing at last year's levels. sequestration to the tune of half a trillion dollars over ten years are set to start in march unless congress does something and secretary panetta is not pleased. >> we no have idea what the hell is going to happen. all tolled, this uncertainty if left unresolved by the congress will seriously harm our military readiness. >> shepard: defense officials already ordered the air force and the navy to cancel maintenance on its aircraft and ships. but secretary panetta says he has asked defense leaders to ensure that any moves they make now should be reversible if at all possible. the president today welcomed hamid karzai to the house to discuss the future of our longest war in which more than 3,000 americans and allied

military personnel have been killed. the president said all forces in afghanistan will move into a support role starting this spring rather than summer as initially planned he said. the two leaders did not spell out the size of the u.s. force that will stay behind in afghanistan after u.s. troops start leaving next year. >> i can't give you a precise number at this point. i will probably make a separate announcement once i have gotten recommendations from troops, from the generals and our commanders in terms of what that drawdown might look like. >> that is not for us to decide. it is an issue for the united states. numbers are not going to make a difference to the situation in afghanistan. it is the broader relationship that will make a difference to afghanistan and beyond in the region. >> somes commanders have proposed fewer than 10 troops stay in afghanistan after 2014. afghanistan's president is well an interesting character. he is currently presiding over a government accused of

corruption, serious crime including the widespread sale of drugs widespread land theft nepotism. hamid karzai becames the u.n. and the united states for everything i have just said. >> s this just a dog and upon any show? what is happening, chris? >> chris: the president said you got to remember the reason we went in there which is 9/11 and the fact that al-qaeda had a safe haiiven haven and kille0 americans. if you consider that the problem we were going to try to fix in afghanistan you could say there hass been success butts of the fact the president said several times we dismantled and set back al-qaeda and forced it out of afghanistan to the no man's land on the border with

pakistan. if you are talking about nation building in afghanistan and creating some kind of stable legitimate law abiding democracy there we haven't succeeded to that degree. that is one of the reasons i think that the president if not rushing for the exits today was talking about a pretty fast walk to the exits because he realizes i think that the bigger goals he may have had for afghanistan at the beginning are impossible and that the only goal we can count on at this point is making sure that our enemies don't get a foot hold there again. >> shepard: to transfer security to a capable afghan security force. that is the goal. but we have a number of guests who come from from time to time including robert young peloton who has been over there recently and says it is just not working and i can't find the expert who can figure out long-term how it might work unless we just stick around there and help police them which of course is an option. >> chris: i'm not sure in the end and one of the things that the president and karzai talked

about is trying to work out some kind of reconciliation with the taliban. given the fact that we set 2014 for the time we will get out the why the taliban wouldn't just sit and wait us out. but the president talks about a residual force to train and advise the africa afghan soldis after 2014. more importantly counter terrorism forces that can sit there and if there is an enemy in the area delta special ops forces can take them out again and ultimately that might be the final result in afghanistan whatever the government there is and, however, badly they serve the people of that country what we ultimately want to do is protect our homeland from attacks from afghanistan schembechler you are talking about -- so you are talking about smaller forces that aren't on the street every day. they can go in and take care of bisquikly. >> chris: not going to be

somebody in the street. but if they hear of a terrorist training camp or terrorist cell you take that out with special ops and drones. we had 99,000 troops and now 66,000. post o 2014 they are talking some where between 3 and 15,000. still some, but obviously a much smaller footprint. >> shepard: we will see you this sunday on "fox news sunday" on the fox broadcast network on your are local fox station. chris is set to discuss the gun control debate. he will also sit down with senators kelly ayotte and blumenthal. >> one major city is cut down on prescription pain killers available in many hospitals.

the difference between fighting abuse and keeping patients pain free. should you be able to allow fewer doses in the hospital than you would in your own home. a debate they are having and we will bring you up to speed on it, next. i'm up next, but now i'm sging the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is!

people here in new york city now have fewer powerful pain killers available to them in new york hospitals. under the new plan patients cannot receive more than three days worth of narcotic pain killers including vicodin. the hospitals will quit dispensing longer acting drugs and if you lose your prescription you are out of luck. no refills.

mayor bloomberg is restructuring private hospitals to follow suit. >> if you get 20 days worth of pills and only need them for three days, there is 17 days sitting there. and you see there s a lot more holdups of pharmacies and what are are they all about. they are not trying to steal your shaving cream or tooth paste. they want these drugs. >> critics say the policy could keep doctors from treating the low income patients that rely on hospitals. this is the same city banning transfat in restaurants and sugary drinks. with us is the director of the division of medical ethics at the nyu medical center. any time you are keeping something from one group that another group can have there is reason at least for rethinking, right? >> i agree. one of the problems with the ban is that it is unfair so if you have a private hospital and

a private doctor all the oxycontin and vicodin you want. we have a huge problem with the abuse of prescription drugs. more die of prescription drug overdose than car accidents now. it is probably worse than recreational drug abuse, heroin and that sort of thing. we need to do something. i appreciate the mayor's stepping in. he in a sense runs those hospitals so that is what he controls. begot to do better than that -- we got to do better than that. quite simply doctors have to stop saying you have an ache i will give you this powerful pain killer. >> shepard: there is the other group and that is exactly the group to whom you are referring who without the modern miracle drugs for some people they couldn't live the way you and i do. debilitating pain. >> huge tension or real people with real horrible pain and go around every day suffering even at end of life care we have

some docs saying i better not prescribe the morphine. >> don't get grandma hurt, please. >> we haven't figured out yet grail rules for if you will governing the powerful pain killers we have. at one end, pouring them into people who abuse them and sell them and die from them recreational and at the other end we have dying grandma. i'm in there saying i don't care what you give her, suffering is unacceptable. i have something to offer. lock up your medicine closet. the way kids and other people get into the abuse of prescription pain killers is they go in and get your ms and you may say not my kid. how about your kid's friend. >> if it is locked the first time they won't get the taste and get addict. if you try to lock it after they have the problem. >> they will find some where else. >> your lock is no good. >> right. >> dr. kaplan. thing hard on this one. a tough one. >> a tough one.

>> shepard: a couple of credit card thieves must by worried about rising interest rates because their small-scale shopping spree. wait until you see this.